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	<title>Comments on: Foreign Aid to Africa? Just Say No</title>
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		<title>By: Moo2400</title>
		<link>http://depolitik.com/2009/02/22/foreign-aid-to-africa-just-say-no/comment-page-1/#comment-11</link>
		<dc:creator>Moo2400</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Mar 2009 15:05:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, I’m under the impression that we can do something as well, but that it goes more along the lines as the old saying “you can give a man a fish and feed him for a day or you can teach a man to fish and feed him for a lifetime.”  The GMO crops would certainly be a start, though I must admit that I’m not too familiar with the exact pros and cons of them.  Either way, I essentially agree with you there.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I’d be more focused on, as you said, the agricultural subsidies we use to flood these countries’ with crops at below the cost of production, thereby destroying their agricultural industry.  But even then, that’s still just a piece, as I’m sure you’re aware – the other major bit of it, I think, is that we need to allow them to create some form of protectionism for their agricultural industries, unless we wish to see them in the situation the UK was in during the early 20th century, but unlike the UK, without any means to protect their own food interests.  All of this just deepens the whole food crisis further.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;However, going that far would require reforming many of the structural adjustment policies imposed on many of these countries by organizations such as the WTO, IMF, and World Bank, and it would also likely bring up debt relief, which is a whole other issue entirely.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, I’m under the impression that we can do something as well, but that it goes more along the lines as the old saying “you can give a man a fish and feed him for a day or you can teach a man to fish and feed him for a lifetime.”  The GMO crops would certainly be a start, though I must admit that I’m not too familiar with the exact pros and cons of them.  Either way, I essentially agree with you there.</p>
<p>I’d be more focused on, as you said, the agricultural subsidies we use to flood these countries’ with crops at below the cost of production, thereby destroying their agricultural industry.  But even then, that’s still just a piece, as I’m sure you’re aware – the other major bit of it, I think, is that we need to allow them to create some form of protectionism for their agricultural industries, unless we wish to see them in the situation the UK was in during the early 20th century, but unlike the UK, without any means to protect their own food interests.  All of this just deepens the whole food crisis further.</p>
<p>However, going that far would require reforming many of the structural adjustment policies imposed on many of these countries by organizations such as the WTO, IMF, and World Bank, and it would also likely bring up debt relief, which is a whole other issue entirely.</p>
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		<title>By: James Wang</title>
		<link>http://depolitik.com/2009/02/22/foreign-aid-to-africa-just-say-no/comment-page-1/#comment-10</link>
		<dc:creator>James Wang</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Mar 2009 05:40:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for reading, Moo2400. I agree that this entire mess has many  &lt;br&gt;aspects to it. As for helping them/welfare for us... I&#039;m personally of  &lt;br&gt;the notion that actually, we CAN help them in certain ways, such as  &lt;br&gt;with free technology transfer of GMO crops to at least get their  &lt;br&gt;economies out of poverty sooner and with greater efficiency.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;They won&#039;t be able to develop these advanced techniques for themselves  &lt;br&gt;anytime soon, and it&#039;ll end up helping us too with a greater yield of  &lt;br&gt;food overall in the entire world. There won&#039;t really be &quot;dependence&quot;  &lt;br&gt;in terms of incentive distortion, since they would have otherwise did  &lt;br&gt;the same thing with inferior crops. That&#039;s a way of helping them with  &lt;br&gt;the money and also helping us in the long run as well.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;But in the end, we aren&#039;t really doing this for them. We&#039;re ultimately  &lt;br&gt;doing this just for us (or just for our agribusiness industries),  &lt;br&gt;since with all of our agricultural subsidies, we produce more than  &lt;br&gt;economically rational for our country. We just dump all of these crops  &lt;br&gt;in their country since we end up with no where else to put them. &quot;The  &lt;br&gt;road to hell&quot; may be paved with good intentions, but this is basically  &lt;br&gt;just expediency for us.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for reading, Moo2400. I agree that this entire mess has many  <br />aspects to it. As for helping them/welfare for us&#8230; I&#39;m personally of  <br />the notion that actually, we CAN help them in certain ways, such as  <br />with free technology transfer of GMO crops to at least get their  <br />economies out of poverty sooner and with greater efficiency.</p>
<p>They won&#39;t be able to develop these advanced techniques for themselves  <br />anytime soon, and it&#39;ll end up helping us too with a greater yield of  <br />food overall in the entire world. There won&#39;t really be &#8220;dependence&#8221;  <br />in terms of incentive distortion, since they would have otherwise did  <br />the same thing with inferior crops. That&#39;s a way of helping them with  <br />the money and also helping us in the long run as well.</p>
<p>But in the end, we aren&#39;t really doing this for them. We&#39;re ultimately  <br />doing this just for us (or just for our agribusiness industries),  <br />since with all of our agricultural subsidies, we produce more than  <br />economically rational for our country. We just dump all of these crops  <br />in their country since we end up with no where else to put them. &#8220;The  <br />road to hell&#8221; may be paved with good intentions, but this is basically  <br />just expediency for us.</p>
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		<title>By: Moo2400</title>
		<link>http://depolitik.com/2009/02/22/foreign-aid-to-africa-just-say-no/comment-page-1/#comment-9</link>
		<dc:creator>Moo2400</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Mar 2009 05:25:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good point on the faults of foreign aid, food aid in particular.  Far too many people are under the notion that giving is the way to go to help these people, when in reality it only increases their dependency on the developed world (I wonder how much this could be applied to things such as welfare?).  Of course, there&#039;s far more to it than just food aid (particularly subsidized foods being imported from the developed world along with SAPs), but what you said is certainly a part of it.  Keep it up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good point on the faults of foreign aid, food aid in particular.  Far too many people are under the notion that giving is the way to go to help these people, when in reality it only increases their dependency on the developed world (I wonder how much this could be applied to things such as welfare?).  Of course, there&#39;s far more to it than just food aid (particularly subsidized foods being imported from the developed world along with SAPs), but what you said is certainly a part of it.  Keep it up.</p>
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